Barcelona slumped to a 1-5 aggregate loss to Real Madrid in the Spanish Super Cup to cap a miserable last few weeks for the team. Or may be months, given the only trophy they won last season was the nominal Copa del Rey. Barcelona exited early in the Champions League and failed to defend their La Liga crown.

To compound their troubles, 25-year-old Neymar left the club on a world-record transfer, leaving the frontline depleted. And they start their new season under new manager Ernesto Valverde, who inherits a troubled team, on and off field. Can Barcelona bounce back? Or are seeing the end of a era already? The Fields Zenia D’cunha and Shashank Rajaram weigh in.

Zenia D’cunha: Barcelona lost the Spanish Super Cup to Real Madrid 5-1 on aggregate. A 1-5 loss in an El Clasico is bad enough, but the manner in which the team lost is worse. It was abject: an own goal in the first leg, no goals in the second. In fact, the most damning of all observations came from Gerard Pique, the own goal scorer and the most enthusiastic thorn in Madrid’s flesh, himself: “In the nine years I’ve been [at Barca], it’s the first time I feel inferior to Madrid,” Pique said.

When the staunchest Barca loyalist (and future club president, you know it) says that, you know something is wrong. And it’s not his view alone, Real Madrid, under Zinedine Zidane, look dangerous. They are collecting trophies like a kid left in a candy store (looking at you, Ramos). They have already defended their Champions League and Uefa Super Cup titles and certainly look like they will retain La Liga too. Unless Neymar-less Barca, under new coach Ernesto Valverde, and a shaky midfield do something extraordinary. But can they pull that off with so many things against them?

Shashank Rajaram:  Given the way things are, absolutely no chance. But this isn’t a new development. It’s been in the works for a good five or six years. Ever since Sandro Rosell has been calling the shots, Barca have been on a downward spiral. Barcelona only attempted one shot versus Real Madrid, their fewest in a first half of a game in 2017 (in all competitions). The players were bound to run out of steam at some point; even the unstoppable Leo Messi.

While Madrid have been strengthening their setup with promising young players like Asensio, Cabellos and Kovacic, Barca are sort of still living in the past. A Xavi quote from July comes to mind – “In general, Barcelona have been sleeping. They have to strengthen the youth academy and their model of play.”

What they’ve done by sustaining Iniesta and Busquets for so long is lose out on one of Europe’s best academy setups. Is the Madrid result a tipping point or have they already reached the depths of no return?

Barcelona’s Argentinian forward Lionel Messi (C) is congratulated by Barcelona’s Brazilian forward Neymar (L) beside Barcelona’s Uruguayan forward Luis Suarez (R) after scoring a goal during the Spanish league football match FC Barcelona vs Villarreal CF at the Camp Nou stadium in Barcelona on May 6, 2017. / AFP PHOTO / LLUIS GENE